Hillary moves goalposts on “Green Coal” now too?

Valentine Bonnaire “Obama vs Hillary Clinton on COAL, who is greener? Al Gore please help Hillary…”
May 25, 2008

You know, I can’t understand how Obama is so backwards in his thinking. He’s already shown us that he is pro-nuke, but now he’s also “pro-coal” — “Clean Kentucky Coal” to be exact. Well, Grist will fill you in on the fact that there IS NO SUCH THING AS CLEAN KENTUCKY COAL.

*cough*

Salon.com
Aug. 20, 2007

But many enviros aren’t convinced that Clinton is at the head of the class on green issues, noting that she supports “clean coal” and, like nearly

Grist on Hillary Plan

# Has advocated for a summer “gas-tax holiday” to ease consumer prices at the pump. The proposal would suspend the 18-cent federal gasoline tax and 24-cent diesel tax from Memorial Day to Labor Day, to be paid for by a tax on oil-company profits.

# Supports coal-to-liquid fuels if they emit 20 percent less carbon over their lifecycle than conventional fuels. On June 19, 2007, voted in favor of an amendment that would provide loans for coal projects, including liquefied coal; the amendment did not pass.

No she doesn’t support “Green Coal” she just supports converting coal to “Liquefied Coal”

Where does this coal come from again?

SolveClimate.com says

So where is the political courage and leadership of this aspiring president on the coal question?

Listen to how she frames it — all wrong:

Well coal fits in very importantly, um, because obviously we have a great reserve of coal and we get more than 50% of our electricity from coal. The challenge is, how we’re going to continue using coal and uh, meet a lot of our environmental challenges.

No, Senator Clinton, the challenge is, how are we going to stop using coal.

It’s gets worse.

….and what I have said is that we’ll have a new cap and trade system and we’ll take a lot of money that we’ll get from that cap and trade system and invest it in new forms of energy including clean coal technology.

Currently, the Lieberman-Warner bill gives away for free to poluters hundreds of billions of dollars worth of carbon credits. You’d think that windfall would be enough for the coal industry to go away and see if they couldn’t develop clean coal on their own.

Right away I have been advocating that we fund 10 large scale carbon capture and storage projects that will utilize a range of coal types and power plant types and storage locations because it’s imperative that we do everything we can to get to a technology that enables us to use clean coal.

There’s no such thing as “clean” coal. And what you advocate is something that was published in a MIT report last year, but you leave out an important detail. It will take until 2030 to bring carbon capture and sequestration technology to commercial scale. Both DOE timelines and a leading global energy consulting firm agree on this.

….that supports, you know, the subsidies for coal-to-liquids projects that meet that environmental standard that I think we can set and I’m excited because if we started on it today we have some answers soon

Coal-to liquids? Representative Waxman is working hard to stop further use of coal-to-liquid fuels as they pollute substantially more than the fuels they replace. It’s fuel that was developed and used by the isolated Nazi regime during World War II, fuel that Al Gore has said is what junkies will turn to when they run out of the cleaner stuff.

So now Hillary supports Nazi technology? What is next, slave labor camps turning “people mills” to generate electricity?

That was a bad joke and idea, but given your initial article was completely skewed and far from accurate of HRC’s position I figured you deserved it.

I guess you didn’t get the memo, Hillary Clinton is finished. If she doesn’t stop while she’s behind, her next occupation is gonna be deep in the coal mines of West Virginia where all of her supporters are.

btw: seeing as though you didn’t write this article on paper, what powered your computer and the internet to publish your thoughts? More likely than not coal.

My non-partisan ideas on “Green Coal” and how it doesn’t exist.

The Sandia National Laboratory show this is how we get “Cleaner” Coal, but fail to mention the how Step 2 is far from clean. You can find out more about this below….

There is no “clean, green” coal contrary the media barrage to which we are witness lately. All those willing to swallow “Green Coal” propaganda are encouraged to watch this Sundance Channel documentary about coal mining in West Virginia.