As John W. Dean eloquently and scientifically lays out in his book, “Conservatives Without Conscience”, Liberals & Democrats are more critical in their thinking, while those on the Right fall into several categories including Authoritarianism & Submissive and are either leaders or subservient followers.
So this brings me to the recent flack over Obama’s FISA vote. True he gave in to compromising, read: Giving Bush everything he wanted, but let’s be realistic here. He is one of 535 members of Congress, what power if any did he have in stopping it? Not much, so because we are critical, open thinkers, we now feel it our obligation to fire up the grill and cook him on it? The implications of this vote on the overall diminution of the 4th Amendment have potential to be a problem, however it does not warrant the response from the Left it is getting and the apparent disgust many in the Democratic Party now have with Obama. What would his filibustering of this Bill actually have achieved? Not very much.
If we are so outraged by his “inaction” on this one incidence, and correct me if I am wrong, I have never heard Obama say he was a Liberal, while I have heard him say he wants to bring all people & interests together, where is the outrage worthy of tearing apart the Party to give McCain the Presidency over the failure to impeach Bush & Cheney? It is not there, so we think it is justified to destroy ourselves over the FISA Bill because our “Great White Hope” did not have the actual power to do anything currently, however if we all stand together and get him elected in November he will have significant power and “The One True Vote” to rectify that which was wrong? Some in the Democratic Party, are holding Obama’s feet to the fire when it was not even his doing in making this the problem that it is. Let’s be real here, it was Bush & Cheney that subverted the law, not Obama, so whey is Obama more responsible for this misdeed than those that actually did it?
We like to eat out young. And after we do it, we never learn what a bad taste it leaves in our mouths for a very long time. We were not content with how “Liberal” Al Gore was in 2000, so we felt it our obligation to find someone more to our tastes by supporting Nader and now we have suffered almost 8 years of a sour, putrid taste in our mouths because of it and given the situation in Iraq, we will continue to grimace at this taste from many more years to come.
The irony being, we continue to chew of the same rotted corpse because we are “critical thinkers” yet we are blinded by the taste in our mouths to stop us from continuing on the same unpleasant action. Today, Al Gore is the patron saint of the Party and Nader nothing more than a bitter old man, yet we can’t see how we did it to ourselves and want to continue on the same path.
Do you see Republicans eating their own? McCain may be the slight exception, where the Right has begun to splinter and yet somehow we see this as a challenge to us of being able to eat our own better and more thoroughly!
Look at the Republicans when it comes to David Vitter and Larry Craig, who if the Party followed their own stringent standards should have been shamed out long ago, but no the followers do not do it. Why? Because the overall needs of the Republican Party to maintain power, to get their agenda accomplished trump the individual desires & wishes of the Party followers. Who are truly the thinkers and smart people when we look at it critically, which is what we always do? But again we often times, much to our detriment, are blinded by our Ideology much more so than those diametrically opposed to us, whom we reverently claim are nothing more than ideological sheep.
We better wake up, open our eyes and get over the sour taste in our mouths, or this fetid taste we have become accustomed to is bound to last a very long time. There is a time for Ideology and there is a time for Reality, now is a time for Reality to set in and actions to be made accordingly.
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6 responses so far ↓
Jason // July 10, 2008 at 1:26 pm |
It seems you missed the basic points.
He tells you one thing to get you to nominate him then does something completely different. We call that lying to get elected. It is one of the major reasons politics are as corrupt as they are. You seem ok with that. Many of us are not and are fed up with it.
You continue this false conflict between Republicans and Democrats. Both of these parties and worthless are another major part of the problem. When you sacrifice your convictions, principles, and morals just so your party wins, we all lose.
It is no longer about right vs left. Its about those in washington who are removed from reality against the rest of us that live in reality. However, amongst us, there are those, like you, who excuse the politicians and continue to use the old labels to continue a false division, distracting from the real one?.
Jason // July 10, 2008 at 1:28 pm |
FYI, I am a conservative and I will no longer throw away my vote by voting for a Republican or Democrat.
Quix // July 10, 2008 at 1:57 pm |
You’re definitely right that the Left tends to eat it’s own tail more consistently than the right. I mean, I’m not going to lie, I was and am still angry at Obama for his vote on the FISA bill. However, as you say, anyone who lets that anger narrow their vision is making a huge mistake.
My word of advice to any Obama supporter who has abandoned him based on this issue is that you may not be satisfied with Obama’s latest vote, but at the same time wouldn’t you rather have someone like Obama who fully acknowledges that the telecoms did break the law in charge of defending your rights than someone like McCain who now thinks what the telecoms did was perfectly legal? [edited: added "?" as per requested]
Hans // July 10, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
@ Jason,
I was not swayed by his words on FISA where he received my vote based on it, but rather he won me over by calling to transcend party lines and look at issues from the perspective of what is in the best interest of the majority of people, ie, the center. I have wrote that elsewhere in comments on this issue on other blogs, but it did not get fully incorporated directly here.
It is inferred by this statement I made in summation,
and if you notice the highlighted text at the top of this page, you will see the same message with different “words”.
Also, yes this a travesty of the Constitution, but at present Big Brother’s currently only has the ability to data mine very well, while they lack the processing ability to sort through it all. So if I just add a simple “Fuck Bush” it gets swept up and overwhelms them with more useless and benign information.
Will this telecomm immunity directly affect my life? Not at all! Will an endless war & potential war with Iran directly affect my life? It already has given the economy is tanking with upwards of a trillion spent on the Iraq war.
I’m not into parsing words, so if you want to hold every syllable that has ever come out of his mouth for him to account for, be my guest, but Obama, as well as myself personally are trying to rise above this destructive & distractive behavior.
Andrew Slominski // July 11, 2008 at 2:22 pm |
OK I’ll repeat my comment here.
Since when does not being able to change the outcome of the vote excuse you from voting incorrectly, against the Constitution? Oh yeah that’s right, NEVER.
Don’t forget, if Obama is elected president he won’t be 1 of 535, he’ll be 1 of 1.
If we can’t expect him to vote for the Constitution now, then why do we imagine he’ll do it when he is elected?
See Alicia’s article on this topic: http://riseuprochester.org/2008/07/11/wire-tap-bill-reactions/
Hans // July 11, 2008 at 3:16 pm |
Well if you want the Constitution to be raped for the next 4 years, like it has been done for the past 8, keep adding fuel to the fire of discontent, but don’t whine when McCain is elected.
Like I mentioned above, if we as Dems can’t handle being outdone by the Republicans as they eat McCain alive, so we must grill Obama more, don’t be surprised when McCain is our next President.
I am not excusing Obama, but I am not willing to allow other Lefties to believe what they want to believe, that Obama is a Liberal, b/c he is not, nor ever said he was. Many Lefties have become blinded by their hatred of Bush, rendering them unable to see the bigger picture and seeing something in Obama that he is not. His message was finding common ground joining together in the middle, not taking us off the diving board to the far Left.
We on the Left are climbing an icy slope without any aids, while the Right climbs a sand dune to which we are tethered. We will always slide back some no matter how much energy we expend while the Right will always gain a little. This is not to say we should not fight it, but it is reality that will never be changed.
If you want to apply silicon to our shoes, by sowing more discontent about Obama, don’t be surprised when we slide further downhill towards the Right when McCain is elected. It happened in 2000 with Nader, 2004 with Ohioans unable to discern the difference between God & Jobs, so what will it be in 2008, FISA & Opting out of Campaign Financing?